This conversation between Owen Cox, Filip Lundström, David Högberg, and Dimitri Crooijmans focused on an upcoming physical live event hosted by Dark Renaissance Productions in Gothenburg, Sweden. The event is titled More Than Machine / Less Than Human and will include speakers Thomas Hamelryck, Carl Hayden Smith, Daniel Fraga and Cadell Last, and focuses on the way humans cannot be reduced to machines, and yet also fail to live up to their own ideal standard of what it means to be human.