In this interview with semiotician Marta Lenartowicz, psychologist Maciek Świeży, and philosopher Gerard de Zeeuw, we discuss the history of the School of Thinking, the importance of thinking social processes inclusive of subjective of cognition, the psychology of learning and meta-knowledge, the relation between a free act and constraints/flexibility and rigidity, psychological safety versus the necessity of struggle, and how all of this is situated within the context of the aims of the School of Thinking.