In the second trialogue on gender trouble/theory we attempt to shift focus from alternatives to binary classification schemes (i.e. triadic, quadratic, or complexified categorization schemes) to the impossibility or the problem at the core of gender itself (i.e. that no categorization scheme "works", as it were, to solve the human relation to sexuality). Thus, an idea is explored that what we call gender is in fact a historical-navigation tool or construct that we use to ultimately transcend sexuality.